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===Crashes during ritual of sorrow=== Many reports on this, but not all are consistent # supermech@hotmail.co.uk say's he encountered a CTD after the 'rain fire' spell # jacob95 reports that he CTDs "just as all the animations start" # balengo reports: "I cannot end The Ritual of Sorrow quest because I get a CTD just a second after getting the message of completion. I suppose my problem is related to the void crawler as other people have already pointed out: anyone can help?" # kaiseryuu made a wonderfull investigative report: <pre> f***ing love this mod, but completing Ritual of Sorrow crashes the game. I won't be finishing that, it seems. Assuming it has something to do with ATF setting her as essential by accident. I tried a few things, including running away as soon as the QUEST COMPLETED text appeared. It didn't crash immediately, but loading any save beyond that point would instantly ctd. If I have another follower with me, then the whole scene will be different, the lightning won't disappear and the bubble won't show up either. She won't get bound to the pillar, nor will the Daedric Lords honor us with their voices, but I'm not too displeased about them staying quiet. Upon hitting her a few times, while my follower watches seemingly amused by the shockwaves, the quest will complete and then the game crashes again. Tried CompleteQuest, but it would just give me the text and no crash. Upon smacking her with the mace after that, the game would crash again. Tried spawning a "Void Crawler" to see if it appearing was the trigger, but that wasn't it. Tried using Kill through console on her, which completed the quest and crashed the game. Tried a save few hours earlier, dismissed all followers, kill-resurrected her, did the whole scene and it crashes at the same spot when she dies. As much fun as raping someone with a mace so hard that reality crashes, I do wish to see what lies beyond. Ahahahahaahha. Okay, got it to work now. As I guessed, the fault lay with AFT slaving her as a follower. I dismissed her at the sanctuary, killed her, resurrected her. Then I took her RefId into console and travelled to the Boethiah-Molag Bal love-love picnic site(why is there a statue of Malacath? Is he there to peep?) moveto player, she appears and starts walking away. Luckily she notices the shrines and walks there then and I could continue on. I dismiss my wife-follower right there so she can watch and then the scene plays out. Averna goes out with a boom(it seems) and the show goes on. I tried save-quit-load to check that it worked and everything seems fine. Interestingly enough the save file number is 616, an alternate translation to 666 to what is the number of the beast. I think I'm gonna post this as is, just as a blog of my 2 hours of testing and messing about with posting a line every 10 minutes as I try to figure out what to do. </pre>
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